| Contents: | Dr. Ian Turner talks on children's rhymes; difference between their own rhymes and nursery rhymes; children's rhymes ending in adult hands eg. 'Mrs Porter' used by T.S. Eliot, Rolling Stones' song uses 'Mary Mack dressed in black'; his interest in children's rhymes began in 1956 with 'I'm a little Dutch girl'; games children play of great interest; the collection 'Cinderella dressed in yella'; plays rest of Wendy Lowenstein's tape, 'Rubber dolly', 'Charlie Chaplin went to France', 'Donald Duck', 'Oliver Cromwell', or 'Oliver Crumble', Tic tac toe, here I go', 'Silver top taxi 1-2-3', 'Eenie meemie minie mo' and numerous versions (eg 'catch a tinker a chicken'), 'a big fat snake ate too much cake', 'Shirley Temple is a star,' popular figures from film & TV 'drift into' this folklore, 'Each peach pear plum', 'long-legged wife'(?), 'who stole the cookies from the cookie jar,' 'Fleafly flo', 'I had a little mini-car built in 1968', 'old King Cole was a dirty old soul' Plays tape by Israel Kaplan (?) recalling his childhood in New York, charts, games, includes 'Lulu was a baby', detail about one game about 'cuckoo's nest', 'when I was a boy in Brooklyn'; 'Charlie over the water'; why (historically) the interest in childrens folklore?; modern investigators found tradition is continually renewed and replaces lost games; round games disappearing except 'on adult initiative' (parties, etc.), some old games have gone because they represent a different social situation, also 'the drama which these represent' (like 'Jimmy James') replaced by TV and games involving exercise, skipping more common than in earlier times, material circumstances influence games played, e.g. in Prahran; once boys skipped rather than girls; skipping rhymes used for divination, essential function of shipping and ball-bouncing rhymes is to set rythym, eg.'Hullo sir, hullo sir.'
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