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Education
Fix this textJournal of the N.S.W. Teachers' Federation
Fix this textRegistered at file General Poet Office, Sydney, for transmission by poet a» a newspaper.
Fix this textVol. 40.—N0. 5.
Fix this textAPRIL 29, 1959
Fix this textPrice: Threepence
Fix this textSALARIES AND EXCESS
Fix this textTEACHING HOURS
Fix this textTECHNICAL TEACHERS’ ASSOCIATION
Fix this textGeneral
Fix this textMeeting of
Fix this textTechnical
Fix this textTeachers
Fix this textMr. S. P. Potts,
Fix this textPresident.
Fix this textMr. J. W. Hansen,
Fix this textSecretary.
Fix this textA special general meeting of
Fix this textthe Technical Teachers’ Associa-
Fix this texttion was held on Saturday, April
Fix this text11 to discuss:
Fix this text(1) Salaries for technical
Fix this textteachers;
Fix this text(2 Excess teaching proposal
Fix this textsubmitted by the Public Service
Fix this textBoard.
Fix this textThe meeting was attended by
Fix this textsenior officers of the Federation,
Fix this textMessrs. Don Taylor, H. S. Norington
Fix this textand S. P. Lewis, and Miss E. W.
Fix this textMattick.
Fix this textMr. Taylor addressed the meeting and
Fix this textanswered questions put to him by the mem-
Fix this textbers. Motions dealing with the two sub-
Fix this textjects were submitted by senior officers of
Fix this textthe T.T.A. on behalf of the Management
Fix this textCommittee. Each speaker ably presented
Fix this textdifferent aspects of the motions submitted
Fix this textby the Management Committee and the
Fix this textexplanations received acclamation from the
Fix this textmeeting. These motions resulted in a good
Fix this textdeal of debate and the proposal dealing with
Fix this text“Excess Teaching” was subjected to a num-
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Fix this textA vote of thanks to the members of the
Fix this textManagement Committee and to the senior
Fix this textofficers of the Federation for the great
Fix this textamount of time they had spent on the prob-
Fix this textlems facing technical teachers, and for the
Fix this textexcellent way they combined together to
Fix this textpresent the case to the meeting, was car-
Fix this textried unanimously.
Fix this textThe meeting, which was limited to dis-
Fix this textcussing the two subjects on the agenda, car-
Fix this textried the following motions:
Fix this textSalaries
Fix this text(1) “This general meeting of technical
Fix this textteachers considers the Board’s salary offer
Fix this textto be unsatisfactory. The offer breaks a
Fix this textlong-standing salary relationship technical
Fix this textteadiers have had with graduate teachers
Fix this textand can have no other effect than to down-
Fix this textgrade technical teachers and adversely affect
Fix this texttechnical education.
Fix this text"We therefore rejectMhe offer and request
Fix this textthe Board to reconsider its decision. With
Fix this textthis purpose in view, the Board be asked
Fix this textto confer again with Federation and Tech-
Fix this textnical Teachers’ Association representatives.
Fix this text“Further, the Federation arrange a repre-
Fix this textsentative meeting as soon as possible with
Fix this textthe Minister, in order to secure his co-opera-
Fix this texttion in having our very reasonable claims
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Fix this text(2) “That, failing a satisfactory solution
Fix this textto the salaries negotiations with the Board
Fix this textwithin three weeks, a full-scale campaign be
Fix this textorganised throughout the State, the cam-
Fix this textpaign to be directed towards:
Fix this text“(a) Informing teachers of the Board’s
Fix this textattempt to devalue technical teachers and
Fix this texttechnical education;
Fix this text“(b) Securing general support by the com-
Fix this textmunity for the justice of our claims;
Fix this text“(c) Securing the co-operation of parlia-
Fix this textmentary members throughout the State in
Fix this textsupport of our salary claim; and
Fix this text“(d) Securing the utmost publicity for
Fix this textour just claims.”
Fix this text"Excess" Teaching Hours
Fix this text“That the Public Service Board proposal
Fix this textheaded ' “Excess” Teaching Hours, Depart-
Fix this textment of Technical Education,' be altered to
Fix this textread as follows:
Fix this text“ ‘(1) (a) The present “ranges” of teach-
Fix this texting loads shall cease and be replaced in each
Fix this textcase by the present “norms," except in the
Fix this textcase of Certificate Courses under review and
Fix this textAccountancy 1 and 2 which shall be adjust-
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Fix this text‘“(b) Teachers shall, as far as practic-
Fix this textable, be allocated programs to the “norms.”
Fix this text“ ‘(c) Where an emergency condition
Fix this textexists, a teacher may be required to under-
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Fix this textwithout additional payment to the extent
Fix this textof not more than ten hours (day equivalent)
Fix this textin any term, nor more than:
Fix this text“ ‘(i) Two hours (d.e.) in any week, if the
Fix this textteacher is working a weekly program; or
Fix this text“ ‘(ii) Four hours (d.e.) in any fortnight
Fix this textif the teacher is working a fortnightly pro-
Fix this textgram, provided that the emergency condi-
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Fix this text“ ‘(iii) Where teachers are obliged to tra-
Fix this textvel between centres to perform excess teach-
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Fix this text“The remainder of the proposal is un-
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Fix this textFEDERATION
Fix this textSUBSCRIPTIONS
Fix this textMr. H. Greinberg, Secretary, Lower
Fix this textTweed Association, writes to the
Fix this textGeneral Secretary:
Fix this text"I am instructed by Lower Tweed Associ-
Fix this textation to advise you that we are unanimously
Fix this textbehind the move to increase members’ sub-
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Fix this text“We appreciate the need for more finance
Fix this textfor the various campaigns and consider the
Fix this textproposed increase a small price to pay for
Fix this textthe many benefits we derive from being
Fix this textmembers of the Federation.
Fix this text“We extend our thanks and congratula-
Fix this texttions to the Executive for the mighty job
Fix this textthey are doing."
Fix this textCommonwealth Savings Bank’s £100,000
Fix this textfor New Federation Building Society
Fix this textThe Commonwealth Savings
Fix this textBank is making available imme-
Fix this textdiately £lOO,OOO to the N.S.W.
Fix this textTeachers’ Federation Co-opera-
Fix this texttive Building Society No. 5
Fix this textLimited.
Fix this textA loan of £150,000 from the Com-
Fix this textmonwealth Savings Bank enabled the
Fix this textFederation’s first society to be formed
Fix this textthree years ago, and the Federation
Fix this textnow conducts societies with a capital
Fix this textof £1 million.
Fix this textIn expressing his pleasure that the Com-
Fix this textmonwealth Savings Bank had been able to
Fix this textprovide finance for the new society, Mr.
Fix this textA. D. M. Catto, Manager of the Bank’s
Fix this textSydney Office, said that the Commonwealth
Fix this textSavings Bank was lending more money for
Fix this texthousing than any other comparable institu-
Fix this texttion. Since the war, the Bank has lent more
Fix this textthan £l5O million, which has enabled over
Fix this text90,000 families to obtain their own homes.
Fix this textThe Bank is continuing to lend at a high
Fix this textlevel. Well over £1 million is made avail-
Fix this textable each month. It is not generally known
Fix this textthat one out of every nine houses constructed
Fix this textin Australia during the post-war years has
Fix this textbeen built with the assistance of a loan from
Fix this textthe Commonwealth Savings Bank —a record
Fix this textof which the Bank is justly proud.
Fix this textMr. Catto stated that the Manager of any
Fix this textbranch of the Commonwealth Savings Bank
Fix this textwould be pleased to have the opportunity of
Fix this textdiscussing with those directly concerned the
Fix this textquestion of their housing needs and the
Fix this textways and means available for obtaining
Fix this textfinancial assistance. He indicated that cur-
Fix this textrently the Commonwealth Savings Bank is
Fix this textapproving a great number of Housing Loans
Fix this textto its depositors and is also making advances
Fix this textenabling building societies to assist their
Fix this textindividual members. The Bank’s Housing
Fix this textLoans are specifically for the erection or
Fix this textpurchase of new homes. Naturally, the Bank
Fix this textrecognises that it has a prior obligation to
Fix this textits depositors and a responsibility in assist-
Fix this texting them.
Fix this textMr. Catto concluded by saying that it must
Fix this textbe widely recognised that the ability of the
Fix this textCommonwealth Savings Bank to continue its
Fix this textvery material contribution to the solution
Fix this textof Australia’s housing problem was largely
Fix this textdependent upon the continuing support of
Fix this textits depositors and the acquisition of new
Fix this textbusiness.
Fix this text(The Federation advises that enquiries re-
Fix this textgarding Building Society finance should be
Fix this textmade to Mr. L. T. Miller, Secretary, N.S.W.
Fix this textTeachers’ Federation Co-op. Building So-
Fix this textciety Ltd.. 4th floor, 267 George St., Sydney.)
Fix this textRECRUITMENT
Fix this textLAGS It E HIM)
Fix this textREQUIREMENTS:
Fix this textMore Teachers’
Fix this textColleges Needed
Fix this textLack of accommodation for teacher training is im-
Fix this textpeding recruitment of teachers in this State.
Fix this textThough the number of teachers' colleges has been
Fix this textincreased to seven, there are still not enough colleges, to
Fix this textprovide for the training of all suitable and qualified
Fix this textapplicants, to say nothing of the numbers which are
Fix this textactually needed.
Fix this textAt the beginning of this year
Fix this textsome 500 suitable and qualified
Fix this textapplicants for enrolment in
Fix this textteachers’ colleges could not com-
Fix this textmence training because accom-
Fix this textmodation was not available.
Fix this textTraining of 330 of them had to
Fix this textawait completion of additions to col-
Fix this textleges, and the remainder, it is now
Fix this textofficially stated, will be placed else-
Fix this textwhere. There is, however, a danger
Fix this textthat in the meantime some of these
Fix this textyoung people will be lost to teaching,
Fix this textand that at a time when recruits to
Fix this textour Service were never more des-
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Fix this textAll available retired teachers have
Fix this textbeen re-employed; the pool from
Fix this textwhich casual teachers are recruited
Fix this texthas been practically exhausted, and,
Fix this textin desperation, and for the first time
Fix this textin some 45 years, untrained persons
Fix this textare being taken into the classrooms.
Fix this textAt the same time heavy classloads
Fix this textare revealed in every survey; the most
Fix this textrecent brought to light 123 classes in
Fix this textprimary and infants’ schools with
Fix this textenrolments of 50 or more, and 75 in
Fix this textfirst, second- and third-year classes in
Fix this textsecondary schools; and hundreds of
Fix this textclasses in various types of schools
Fix this textthroughout the State with enrolments
Fix this textof 45 or more.
Fix this textIt has been stated officially that the
Fix this textnumber of students in New South
Fix this textWales will reach the record of 5,000
Fix this textthis year. This is an improvement on
Fix this textthe 4,241 in training last year.
Fix this textOf these 4241 students, 1405 were
Fix this textfollowing the four- or five-years
Fix this textcourse, 115 the three-years course and
Fix this text2721 the two-years course.
Fix this textThese enrolments—424l in 1958, an
Fix this textestimated 5000 in 1959—are for a State
Fix this textwith a school population which has
Fix this textreached 580,000 this year.
Fix this textThe State of Victoria has done
Fix this textmuch better than New South Wales
Fix this textin attacking this teacher-recruitment
Fix this textproblem. The total number of
Fix this textstudents in Victorian teachers’ col-
Fix this textleges this year is 4,945.
Fix this textIn Victoria no qualified and suit-
Fix this textable applicant for a studentship at a
Fix this textcollege has been refused. Some may
Fix this textnot have been able to get the type of
Fix this textcourse they wished, e.g., in such
Fix this textcourses as Domestic Arts and Art and
Fix this textCraft the Department’s estimated re-
Fix this textquirements will be met by the num-
Fix this textber accepted and therefore entry to
Fix this textsuch courses is now highly selective.
Fix this textUnsuccessful applicants for these
Fix this textcourses are offered alternative courses.
Fix this textThis year two new colleges have
Fix this textbeen established at Coburg and
Fix this textFrankston. These are in temporary
Fix this textaccommodation, but the new buila-
Fix this texting has been commenced at Coburg
Fix this textand tenders have been called for a
Fix this textnew building at Frankston. Both
Fix this textbuildings, when completed, will ac-
Fix this textcommodate approxim ate 1 y 500
Fix this textstudents. A new college building was
Fix this textcompleted at Ballarat last year, with
Fix this textresidential accommodation. A new
Fix this textsecondary teachers’ college is in
Fix this textcourse of construction.
Fix this textIt 1 is not suggested of course that Victoria's provision for
Fix this texteducation generally is in keeping with her provision for teacher
Fix this texttraining as compared with that of New South Wales. In many ways
Fix this textthe advantage is with our own State. But if Victoria, with a school
Fix this textpopulation of 380,000, finds it necessary to train almost as many
Fix this textstudents as New South Wales, with a school population of 580,000,
Fix this textthe obvious conclusion is that as far as teacher training is concerned
Fix this textwe are very far behind.
Fix this text"THE STAFFING
Fix this textPOSITION IS BECOMING
Fix this textDESPERATE"
Fix this textLest this may be thought
Fix this textto be an exaggeration made
Fix this textfor propaganda purposes, it is
Fix this textnecessary to say that:
Fix this text• Classloads in our schools
Fix this texthave never been greater (page
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Fix this text• The school population
Fix this textthis year increased by nearly
Fix this text20,000;
Fix this text• The increase will be much
Fix this textgreater in the future there
Fix this textare now 374,000 children of
Fix this textfour years and under in New
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Fix this textYet—
Fix this text• There has been hardly
Fix this textany increase in the number of
Fix this textstudents in teachers' colleges
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Fix this text• About 500 suitable and
Fix this textaualified applicants have so
Fix this textfar been turned away because
Fix this textaccommodation is not avail-
Fix this textable far their training;
Fix this text• There are no plans to
Fix this textprovide more teachers' colleges
Fix this textuntil well on into the next
Fix this textfinancial year.
Fix this textAll members should read
Fix this textthe President's article on
Fix this textoaae 4.
Fix this textIt's easy and takes two shakes of a lamb's tail!
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