Guide to the Papers of the Mann family (as filmed by AJCP)



National Library of Australia View Catalogue Record

Created: 2019

Collection Summary

Mann Family
Papers of the Mann family (as filmed by the AJCP)
Date Range
11 September 1836 - 1950
Collection Number
10 items
Language of Materials
Australian Joint Copying Project
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Scope and Contents

Journal kept by J.S. Mann September 1836-January 1837 while serving on HMS Victor on a voyage from Sydney to New Zealand, Tahiti, Fiji and other Pacific Islands. The journal describes conditions on board and includes sketches of ports of call. Letter 1836 to his sister describing Sydney and referring to Maoris.

Seven letters written by F.G. Mann to his family 1889-1909 when he was working as a surveyor in Western Australia. They describe aspects of railway development, the end of the gold rush, and the work of local doctors and priests.

The Mann Family: Notes on Some Members of the Mann Family and their Connections with the Gother, Fyers and Thorold Families, compiled by Hilda Maud Thorold and Violet Mary Mann (1950).

Conditions Governing Access

Available for Access.

Conditions Governing Use

Many of the records digitised as part of the AJCP are still in copyright. Readers wishing to publish or reproduce documents should seek permission, in the first instance, from the owner of the original material.

Preferred Citation

Acknowledgement of use of this material should refer to the location of the original material and to the Australian Joint Copying Project.

Items from this collection should include references to the location of the original material and to the AJCP nla.obj number, which serves as the online identifier for the digital copy.

Example: M Series: Journal of Capt. James Cook, 18 February-23 September 1770, British Library Add. MS 27885 (AJCP ref:

Archival History

Filmed at the private residences of Dame Kathleen Courtney, DBE in London and Miss J. de L. Mann in Wiltshire, as part of the Australian Joint Copying Project, 1969 (AJCP Reel: M720). Original microfilm digitised as part of the NLA AJCP Online Delivery Project, 2017-2020.

Existence and Location of Originals

Originally filmed from private records of Dame Kathleen Courtney, DBE in London and Miss J. de L. Mann in Wiltshire.

Existence and Location of Copies

The original AJCP microfilm of the records filmed from this collection is available at the National Library of Australia [] as well as other institutions holding AJCP microfilm.

See: Correspondence of the Mann Family, Bodleian Library, Oxford, England.

Collection reference: MSS. Eng. lett. b. 9, c. 292-4, d. 303-6, e. 119

For further information see The Correspondence of the Mann Family at the Bodleian Library.

Finding Aid Note

This finding aid is a revised online version of the original finding aid prepared by the Australian Joint Copying Project (AJCP), published by the National Library of Australia in 2019. The original AJCP finding aids were unpublished typescripts or photocopies available from libraries that held copies of the original microfilm.

Dates used in this finding aid refer to the date range of the records selected for filming rather than to the date range of the Series or Files.


Australia; Fiji; Fyers Family; Genealogy and genealogies; Gold and goldfields: Western Australia; Gother Family; Mann Family; Mann, Frederick G.; Mann, James S.; Mann, Violet M.; Maori; Naval Officer; New Zealand; Pacific Islands; Paintings, drawings, and prints: Pacific Islands; Railways: Western Australia; Royal Navy: voyager; Surveyors; Sydney, New South Wales: visits to; Tahiti; Thorold Family; Thorold, Hilda M.; Victor, HMS (ship); Western Australia


Originally cited in Australian Joint Copying Project Handbook. Part 8: Miscellaneous (M) Series. Third Edition, published 1998. Entry 306, p. 114. []

Biographical / Historical

Frederick Gother Mann (1848-1910) was the son of Major-General Gother Frederick Mann (1817-1881) and his wife Margaret. Gother Mann served in the Royal Engineers in China in 1857-1860. Frederick Mann emigrated to Western Australia as a young man and worked as a surveyor in country districts and in Perth. He died at Busselton. He was unmarried.

James Saumarez Mann (1820-1851), the uncle of Frederick Mann, was born in Guernsey. He was the son of Colonel Frederick William Mann (1781-1871) and his wife Martha. Frederick Mann had served in the British Army in Spain, Portugal, France and Canada and retired to Guernsey in 1841. James Mann was educated at Elizabeth College, Guernsey, and enlisted in the Royal Navy. He served on HMS Victor on the East Indies Station in 1835-1837 and later on the Mediterranean Station and the Channel Squadron. He was promoted to lieutenant in 1845. He married Julia Routh in 1849.

Item Descriptions

Series. Mann Family, 1950

1 item

Hilda M. Thorold and Violet M. Mann, compilers. The Mann Family: notes on some members of the Mann Family and their connections with the Gothers, Fryers and Thorold families. Printed, (104pp.), 1950 (File)

Members of the family included Gother Kerr Mann (1809-1899), who arrived in Sydney in 1836 and was a civil engineer and the first Commissioner of the New South Wales Railways, and his brother John Frederick Mann (1819-1907), who migrated to Sydney in 1841, worked in the Survey Department, and married a daughter of Sir Thomas Mitchell.

Series 2. Letters of Frederick Gother Mann, 10 October 1889 - 8 October 1909

7 items

Frederick G. Mann (Bunbury) to his mother Margaret Mann, 10 October 1889 - 25 October 1889 (File)

Holiday in Bunbury; re-instated to the life of a gentleman; local transport; move to Karridale and work as a surveyor; friends in the district; sketch map of the area.

Frederick G. Mann (Karridale) to Margaret Mann, 8 November 1889 - 9 November 1889 (File)

Insufficient work to keep him busy for more than a few weeks; details of surveying work; news of acquaintances; thanks for photographs of sister Agnes and subscription to Institute of Civil Engineers; depressed economic conditions in the colony; bankruptcies of Perth merchants; likely need for surveys for tramways.

Frederick G. Mann (Karridale) to Margaret Mann, 18 November 1889 (File)

Possibilities of future work; his sketches and watercolours; possible visit to coal and tin fields; sketch map of Western Australia.

Frederick G. Mann (Perth) to Margaret Mann, 27 November 1892 - 4 December 1892 (File)

Anecdotes concerning his young nephew Davie; moral failings of Anglican clergy; prospects for doctors in the colony; doctors in country districts 'are generally drunkards'; Midland Railway 'proved to be a gigantic swindle'; Yilgaru (Southern Cross Goldfields) Railway; specifications in contract with the Government.

Return from survey; work with P.C.C., 1894-04-19; 1894-04-27 (File)

Frederick G. Mann (Perth) to Margaret Mann, 17 May 1894 (File)

Influx of immigrants in the colony; peculiar people of Western Australia; Mann has no wish to get into Society; men returning from goldfields; water shortage and fever on the diggings; will continue working for the P.C.C.; wages; death of his sister Dora; photographs; banks in Perth and Fremantle and police force strengthening their forces on account of many thieves among the diggers.

Frederick G. Mann (Busselton) to his sister Alice Courtney (Milltown, Co. Dublin), 8 October 1909 (File)

Thanks for card and present; fall from a spring cart. (postcard)

Series. Papers of James Saumarez Mann, 11 September 1836 - 31 December 1836

2 items

James S. Mann. Journal kept on HMS Victor (Captain Richard Crozier) on a cruise to the South Sea Islands, 14 September 1836 - 31 December 1836 (File)

The journal refers to the departure from Sydney; sighting of Cape Egmont and Cape Maria Van Diemen; arrival at Bay of Islands (29 Sept.); meetings with missionaries; landscape; visit by a Maori chief Akita; Maori burials; departure from New Zealand (7 Oct.); island of Toobonai; arrival at Tahiti (30 Oct.); canoes, huts and gardens of Tahitians; impressions of Tahitians; meeting with Queen Pomare, George Pritchard acting as interpreter; church service; cruising among Society Islands and Fiji; meeting with a Fijian chief; arrival at Tongataboo (24 Nov.); religious divisions; weakness of missionaries; treachery of Tongans; Bow (Hao) Island; dealings with chiefs; sighting of Lord Howe Island and Ball's Pyramid; return to Sydney (27 Dec.). At the end of the volume is some verse written by Alexander Ross of HMS Jupiter and longitudes and latitudes of a few places visited on the cruise. (56p.)

James S. Mann (Sydney) to his sister Annie Mann (Guernsey), 11 September 1836 (File)

About to sail on voyage to South Sea Islands; impressions of Maoris living in Sydney; Sydney is not lively as there are very few young ladies; rumours of war with Russia; visit to the theatre in Sydney with Gother Mann.